From Global Leadership to Holistic Coaching: The Journey of Marla Moody

 In this episode of Career Coaching Secrets, host Kevin sits down with Coach Marla Moody, a former operations leader who spent 36 years leading multicultural teams across 54 countries before transitioning into coaching. Marla shares her incredible journey from global leadership to launching her own holistic coaching practice that blends neuroscience, emotional regulation, and leadership development. She dives deep into the challenges of pricing as a coach, overcoming imposter syndrome, and leading from a place of rest. Listeners will gain powerful insights into resilience, the value of long-term coaching relationships, and how to scale a purpose-driven business without losing your heart for service.

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Transcript

Marla Moody: 0:00

In a couple different communities. I'm in a coaching community that is pure coaching, uh, with people who tend to be a little bit more on the nonprofit side. Most many, many of the people in that community struggle with what we're talking about. Um, I've also been coached by very high caliber coaches, and they're like, I'm $300 an hour, period. You can't afford me? Let's do it once a month instead of every two weeks, you know, or like, but it's knows her value.

Davis Nguyen : 0:30

Welcome to Career Coaching Secrets, the podcast where we talk with successful career coaches on how they built their success and the hard lessons they learned along the way. My name is Davis Wynne, and I'm the founder of Purple Circle, where we help career coaches scale their business to $100,000 years, $100,000 months, and even $100,000 weeks. Before Purple Circle, I've grown several seven and eight-figure career coaching businesses myself and have been a consultant at two career coaching businesses that are doing over $100 million each. Whether you're an established coach or building your practice for the first time, you'll discover the secrets to elevating your coaching business.

Kevin: 1:01

Welcome to Career Coaching Secrets Podcast. I'm Kevin, and today we are joined by Coach Marla Moody. She has been a coach since 2019 for the last six years, but she transitioned as an operation leader uh in that role for about 36 plus years, which was insane. Anyways, welcome to the podcast, Coach Marla.

Marla Moody: 1:23

Thank you, Kevin. I'm excited to uh spend some time with you.

Kevin: 1:27

Me too. Now, yeah, pre-podcast, we were talking about your previous career, and I was like, hey, I gotta stop you for a second because uh I want to have the shock value on the podcast. So tell me, uh I would love to hear the origin story about like what got you into coaching and what made you kind of like leave after 36 years in that leadership role to start your own business. I would love to hear that story.

Marla Moody: 1:50

Honestly, Kevin, a lot of people thought I was crazy because in some ways I had a dream job, right? I led a team that had high impact, high value, good people, and I got to travel all over the world. I've been to 54 countries, uh, had a network of 101 countries of really being able to see impact. And so people are like crazy with that. I have a passion for helping people be at their best, finding unique solutions to hard problems, and I've led multicultural teams and developed and raised them up. And so I started seeing patterns. I saw patterns of what makes a healthy team, dynamic team, what makes loyalty, what makes a talent magnet. And I I was ended up overseas and was happened to become an operations leader for a region, North Africa, Middle East, and Central Asia. And then later just Central Asia. It was so big we sp split it up. And I've learned a lot from that, including how to lead as a woman in a very male-dominated societies, uh, how to build teams from scratch, how to be as an operations leader, how to give vision to visionary leaders, so that you're not an administrator, you're a leader and really moving forward. And so loved what I did, saw success. I as an operations leader, I started being coached. And um apparently my coach says, like, you've been coached. Like I was the number one number of people she coached because I saw such an important value. And at through that realization, that's when I started turning to becoming a coach as well. I got certified with ICF, International Coaching Federation, and started coaching somewhat within the organization and outside, both to gain knowledge and experience and to uh help people that to have a better impact. And so that started my coaching career. As I coached, especially internally within a nonprofit organization, I started seeing themes of how others were leading. I was getting some of the people I was coaching were on standard of performances. And the more I coached and got into their story, sure they have hard edges to rub off and things, but I started seeing even more some of the liabilities of leadership. People are put into leadership without being developed or without being supported. Because of that, they were overly busy, they weren't able to develop their team, they didn't have a clear message, and so the whole thing became less efficient. And then people who could be really dynamic workers were ending up in the standard performance category. And so I started asking the leaders of the people that I was coaching with the standard performance, hey, could I meet with you? Could I meet with your leadership team? And can I develop workshops for your team to smooth over some of those what I saw was a dysfunction? So the more I started doing that, I started realizing that as much as I loved what I did, loved my team, I felt for this season of my life the best way I can make a positive impact is to sit down with leaders, to interact with leadership teams, and develop workshops to really help teams be unified and it's like self-accountability. So it's not the leader managing, it's the leader leading and people really feeling empowered because they get to do their job. So that's kind of my progression. It was a big deal for me to resign. I didn't tell anybody for the longest time, and finally I had to say it out loud and you know, replace myself. And so I'm excited for this new career, and we're going full on right now.

Kevin: 5:53

Now, I'm just so curious too, because it sounds like you were kind of in a phase of kind of coaching, right? Internally for this organization, and then you were uh and then you're uh obviously doing your day-to-day as operations leader, right? And so what led to a decision for you just to go full-time? Why not just ride it out between d just devil's advocate, by the way? Like, why not just ride out with both?

Marla Moody: 6:16

Partly is because I wanted to go deeper with fewer because I was going, I had a global job, and not only did I have tell 12 people that I was developing, but I was interacting from a global perspective. You can kind of only go so deep, but I made some it was fun to see some programs. In fact, I met with someone earlier today that it's still going on because you just you start finding creative solutions, but I wanted to do that people interaction, and I want the next generation to be equipped. One thing I see too is there's a lot of anxiety with a lot of people, and so I actually wrote a book on the Vegas nerve as a tool to be able to help teach people how to self-regulate, and that was part of it too, is I wanted to get into writing. And as a leader, there's a lot of leadership aspects that take you away from sometimes going deeper with people.

Kevin: 7:18

People put in leadership roles and they're not getting any support. And so, fast forward to your own independent practice.

Marla Moody: 7:24

Yes.

Kevin: 7:24

I'm kind of curious who everybody talks about ideal client profile. So who do you kind of find yourself helping these days?

Marla Moody: 7:32

Yeah, that's a great question. What's interesting is, you know, they talk about the the, you know, that ideal client. For me, that's slightly hard because I'm diverse in my interests. I'm no I'm an author and really care about health and wellness and believe about the holistic person. I'm passionate about leaders being the best they can be and leading from a place of rest and ple leading from a place of value. Yes, I am stepping into the leadership, um, working with leadership teams and leaders themselves, really helping them find their North Star and go from what are their values and how to how to align the values of their mission, coming up with clear messaging and lead from a rested place. So that's one group and their leadership team I'm working with. But I also um I am a nonprofit at heart. I also serve those that come from people with lived experience, as we call it, those that have trauma. And so a portion of what I do is sitting down and helping people one either learn how to regulate and work on that that anxiety, especially when it has lift experiences, or making maybe poor choices with finances and stuff. So a portion of what I do is serving that underserved community, and the rest of the time it's mostly focused on leaders. Because I wrote the book on the Vegas nerve, I do get people coming and saying, hey, I'm having full Vegas shutdowns or I'm I'm having some health issues. So I actually, because I coach in a holistic way, it's easy to step into what the world is. So unfortunately, it's been hard to say this is my ideal client because I see it's easy for me to step into where someone's at and help them get to the next step.

Kevin: 9:26

Yeah. And what I after doing this podcast so many times, right, with so many different people, um, I realized that it's just an evolution of people's ideal client profile. Like what they think it is. By the end of like yesterday, I interviewed someone who's like 40 year 30 or 40 years down the line, and what he thought ideal client was at day one is totally different from now. So I feel like as you progress through your business and as it matures a little bit more, because you just started it last year, right? I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna morph into something pretty interesting. One of the biggest differences between your previous role and uh going solo, starting your own business, is the marketing aspect, right? And so how are people kind of finding you? Are you do like how are you getting the word out there? How are clients finding you? And are you doing any specific like marketing for yourself right now?

Marla Moody: 10:18

Yeah. Marketing by far is going to be is my weaker spot. And um I've found that every job has marketing. Doesn't matter if you're a real estate agent, if you're nonprofit, um, if you're a solo coach. So um I've had to shift my mindset with that. I am doing my own podcast, and with that I'm reaching out to nonprofit leaders, and so that is a uh place where I'm finding, in a sense, the ideal client. My my book out has people are finding me through that when they feel a need. Um, and then a lot of word of mouth right now. Uh who do you you know, they've seen me work so a little bit more of that word of mouth. I love leading workshops with teams. And what I do is I work with the leader or the leadership team to find out what are some of the unique next steps for the team. And so through that, a lot of people reach out to me and ask for one-on-one after we've led different workshops and stuff like that. So definitely newer at it. I will be starting doing some events. I have a leadership framework and I'm real excited to help leaders understand the concept of it and feel like if they could walk away, it's um gonna be doing free events, just if they could walk away with like one area that if they strengthened would really level up their leadership or level up their team. So my first one's gonna be this November, November 11th.

Kevin: 11:50

So how exciting.

Marla Moody: 11:52

Yeah.

Kevin: 11:53

All right. Yeah, so it sounds like you're doing podcasts, workshops, you're getting word of mouth, you have your book. It sounds like you're definitely like an event. You like hosting kind of these like events and having people show up. That sounds like your type of uh style. Now, what I'm really interested about is like, okay, people are finding out about you, they're raising their hands. You mentioned that some people after a workshop are just like, hey, like, what do you kind of offer? And so as I talk to a lot of coaches on this podcast, right? There's so many different types of offerings that coaches do. Some do one-on-ones, some do group trainings, uh, some do group coaching. What kind of like what does a coaching engagement with Coach Marla look like, I guess? Like, what are different offers that you have?

Marla Moody: 12:36

Yeah, that's a great idea. The majority of what I've done is one-on-one coaching. However, I'm starting to see the value of group coaching because you people listen to one another and in just some self-accountability, you know, the group accountability. So I want to get more into that because I see the value. I also, as I do offers, for example, I do six months coaching, and we really say what are some key goals you want to get to within six months, and we do usually every other week. But I use multiple techniques, I use vagus nerve techniques, I actually use art, I use physical movement. I don't think just talk always gets to where you want to go. So when I'm working with leaders, my goal is to be able to develop workshops so that the leader is leveling up their leadership, and then I'm also coming behind them and helping them with leveling up the team. So my my offer, I'd call my VIP offer, is that one-on-one coaching with the the leader, having them also in a of high-level leaders, and then developing workshops. So it's basically it's a holistic view rather than just like I give you knowledge, you go off and do it. It's support at every level. It's the coaching support, it's the helping with messaging, and it's really taking that message and having an outsider come in and really do the work to emphasize where they want to go.

Kevin: 14:17

Yeah, it's really interesting because uh I don't know, I feel like you might relate to this a little bit, but one of my favorite things to watch is like um I don't know what you would call her, kind of like a massage therapist or something like that, and she like releases all the emotions and stuff. And I've had moments where I release my psoas, certain emotions come up, or hip openers during yoga and stuff like that too. And so I personally I I know the value of like the vagus nerve and learning how to regulate our parasympathetic uh sympathetic nervous system so we're not as reactive anymore. But one of the other questions I have is like we live in a capitalist society, right? So like when it comes to pricing your maybe your your offers, what pricing strategies have you gravitated to? Like, how do you think about charging for your services?

Marla Moody: 15:06

Yeah, that is probably my biggest obstacle in many ways, in that I come from a nonprofit world, right? So my model of of income is either bartering, I do this for this for me, or people believe in my cause, they give, and then I serve a different community. One thing actually that's attracting me to coaching is that the person I'm asking to s hand out money is also the person that's getting direct benefit from it. And that is something because when you say you hand out money and these people get benefited, there's there's to that person because it feels good, you know, it's tax breaks, things like that. But if I can say, I guarantee you're you get to where you're going faster working with me, and that does have that has value that can be translated into monetary value. So in theory, I believe that, yeah, I I believe that I can get people to where they want to go faster and in a healthier way. And so I think goal and health together um really is achievable.

Kevin: 16:22

Yeah, just really, really and uh something I learned from the pharmacy world is like, yes, it's really cool if like it's not ideal if you're paying for someone and you don't see the benefits. It's better if they're paying and they're seeing some benefits, but the ultimate like golden goose is if you get someone else to pay and you reap all the benefits, like insurance companies. That's why our healthcare system is so expensive. But gosh, we could go that's a different podcast topic. Yeah. But what what one of the interesting things too, I think about especially with the work that you do, is like, okay, so we kind of understand like who's paying you, how they're paying you. And obviously, you don't need to give any hard numbers, but there's so many ways to justify your pricing. So I think about like, oh yeah, we could justify from the amount of time that we like put into a project. We could price anchor based off of the amount of value, whatever that means to the client, right? And so, like, how do you go about like when you're trying to get your baseline pricing? What was that process like? Did you go to other coaches and ask them, hey, what should I charge for this? Or like I'm very curious about that part too.

Marla Moody: 17:28

Yeah, I'm in a couple different communities. I'm in a coaching community that is pure coaching, uh, with people who tend to be a little bit more on the nonprofit side. Most, many, many of the people in that community struggle with what we're talking about. Um, I've also been coached by very high-caliber coaches, and they're like, I'm $300 an hour, period. You can't afford me. Let's do it once a month instead of every two weeks, you know, or like, but it's knows her value and and that type of thing. I'm also in some of different communities that are for more entrepreneurs, and that has a different model of, yeah, what is a package, you know, instead of the idea of let's do one-off coaching where it's this per hour, is to say, and I really do believe you're gonna get the best value if you commit for a minimum of six months. Because if you're going like, I'm doing these one-offs, there's there's about change that starts happening, in my opinion, around month four and five that just takes that commitment. So I think those other communities and seeing the model of getting a package, like you said, instead of in like this hourly rate. I really believe that benefits the the better. Not just, you know, it's not just like, oh, now I'm I'm more stable. It honestly helps the client get to their goal faster.

Kevin: 18:54

Kind of reminds me of uh baking almost, right? Like, sure, okay, we throw we spent half an hour like mixing cookies and stuff, they're in the oven, and then like maybe like five minutes and we're like, oh screw the cookies, we're gonna make a cake. There's not enough incubation period for like the coaching to work if we're always doing these one-offs and stuff.

Marla Moody: 19:15

You know, that's a really that could be used in so many different ways because there is that kind of bouncing around and like, well, I want to try like there's a person I'm coaching who isn't who who perform their base job better, but there's a desire to kind of try to do other things. And there's something about resilience. I'm gonna use that word in this case, is can you stick it through? And coaching isn't coaching, can be you go in, you talk, you feel good, and you leave. But that's that's getting to the hard stuff. Coaching really means I'm gonna show up, I need to show up honestly, and I need to show up with the desire to that the outcome is worth the cost of change. And change is hard, whether it's just normal habits or belief systems. But if you don't make change, then you're gonna be in the same spot you were, or worse, than if you really showed up. And that's where like I like that idea of that it needs that incubation. If it's like, oh nope, this isn't gonna turn into a cake, let me make it into brownies. You're not pushing through that resilience.

Kevin: 20:25

Yeah, it's so funny if we use an analogy because it sounds so freaking ridiculous, right? Of like, no duh. Like but yeah, it makes a lot of sense.

Marla Moody: 20:34

But we're it's you know, going back to that resilience piece though, discomfort is a learned skill. And that's why I love sports, that's why I love music, that's why I love art. Because to be good, to be creative, you have to be uncomfortable. With sports, you know, you have to get to that point where you're tired and push through the tired. With art, you're like, this is ugly. I'm good, it's okay. I'm gonna keep going. And so I I can pull those things into people and give them the motivation of pushing through to get resilience. The that can be amazing.

Kevin: 21:11

Yeah, and that's one of the reasons why I practice a lot of combat sports. I'm like into jujitsu, MMA, and stuff, because I mean it definitely increases your baseline resilience, especially in the physical arena. And then when you can apply that to the physical arena, it's like, oh not um when a client says no, it's way better than getting punched in the face repeatedly and getting CTE over time, right? There you go. Yeah, there's a lot of lessons in resilience, and I'm glad that you brought that up. I do want to switch topics for a second. Like, okay, so now that we know your marketing, kind of the offers you do, kind of how you price things right. I'm curious about your future goals. One of the things that you said was that you started the business pretty recently. And so where do you kind of want this coaching business to take you in the next few years? Do you have like desires to scale? Uh, do you want to like hire other coaches? Do you have secret dreams that no one knows about? I would love to hear some of the things that are on your mind.

Marla Moody: 22:10

I do need to scale in that I want to be able to to I want to be able to have it where I can do more of the things I'm really good at, and that other people who are good at other things can get an income for that, right? That it's that I would love to be able to start providing income for people who are good and so that I can be freed up to do what I want to do. I have this secret desire to have it to the point where everybody that's that's um investing in their own um or their teams work through through playing with me, a portion of that goes to poor bono work or even overseas kind of thing. I have a vision for going to like refugee camps and villages that are very poor and really help with some of the things we've talked about of helping people know how to regulate their emotions or how to have work through conflict and things like that. So there's to be able to scale it to where I have time to do that, to where I'm I'm coaching, but I would like more time and I'd like time to write, things like that. So, you know, in an ideal world, if I could have, I wouldn't say a big team, but a small team of coaches, because then you can say, you know what, this person is gonna meet your meet needs better because of whatever it is, whether it's you know their skill set or their personality or their time zone. I I coach just in the US. I coach really all over the world. And so sometimes the time zone gets a little challenging.

Kevin: 23:50

Yeah, yeah. Man, that sounds like uh kind of like uh how certain law firms they do pro bono work, but like it sounds like on a more international scale and more definitely a way more holistic, like for sure. Okay. As you reflect on your current season in your business right now, we talked about a few challenges, but like what are the biggest challenges you're noticing in the season of business right now for yourself?

Marla Moody: 24:14

Getting my infrastructure done so that some of the things that could be automated are knowing what to do first, right? There's, you know, kind of everything in some ways everything has to be done. I would say I still struggle with imposter syndrome. And then I start talking and realizing what I do have to offer, which is honestly quite quite a in many ways, but there's still that hindrance of imposter syndrome and and again knowing how to uh market myself, knowing how to just these are my these are my offers, and this is a good fit. You know, I don't need to give an offer to someone who it's not a good fit to. I want to work with the people who need what I have, um, because there's other people that need other things that I I have, and the freedom to say, I'm not just chasing, I'm chasing the person who I can help. So yeah, building that infrastructure, knowing how to really market myself, and being able to spend time on the right things. Sometimes it's hard to know what objects are just shiny and what objects are gonna get you to my goal.

Kevin: 25:26

I would like to play a game with you for our next segment. Okay. Uh this is through the lens of business investments. As you know, coaches invest into a lot of things, things training, marketing, team members, a lot of different things. As of pretty much all business owners, I would say. But what I'm gonna do, kind of like a therapist, I'm gonna just prompt you a f a phrase, and you just tell me the first thing that comes to mind for you. And if there's a story behind that, you can elaborate a bit on that too. Okay? But try to be as specific as possible. All right?

Marla Moody: 25:58

Okay.

Kevin: 25:58

Okay. Four phrases. The first phrase. First business investment you remember making education.

Marla Moody: 26:04

Not just my like formal education, but working it like I have real estate property too. And I the only thing I can do in a nonprofit world and money outside of the nonprofit, and I invested in a company that could train me, give me the tools, and had the ethics that I I'm not stoop to to lower ethics than I have, so it has to be a high ethics training. And I that with coaching as well.

Kevin: 26:32

Last business investment you made.

Marla Moody: 26:34

It's a helping the I'm having someone help me with the podcast. It's called Conversation. I can't remember what's called, but they have been doing helping me with that.

Kevin: 26:45

I think I wrote down your podcast, was it like what I can't read my writings? What works. What works. Yeah.

Marla Moody: 26:52

Yeah, it works. And it it's on multiple channels, but in particular, you know, YouTube with uh coaching with Marla. I yeah, interviewing nonprofit leaders to find out what works and what they lessons they want to teach us, you know, lessons they learned that they would like to pass on.

Kevin: 27:08

That's business investment we made.

Marla Moody: 27:10

I'm in a community of people of entrepreneurs, so they have you know the the what to do, um, but it also comes with community and accountability. Uh-huh. So I that's that's got me uh closer to a path that that me see s will help me see success.

Kevin: 27:35

Where's the business investment that you kind of wish you got your money back from?

Marla Moody: 27:39

I invested in another community that promised a lot but didn't and had structure, but it was kind of boring training, and there wasn't the type of accountability and the type of people I could go to and really say, you know, like I have a tech question, I have a tech person, and I have a strategic, you know, marketing question, and that yeah, was uh like a waste of funds and time.

Kevin: 28:06

As you reflect, I'm sure there's stories that are coming up for you, but throughout the years, I guess how has your decision-making process changed in what to invest in and what not to invest in over the years, if it has changed at all?

Marla Moody: 28:19

Back in the day and being raised with someone who you don't get into debt, there's a in a sense a low risk. There is things I've shifted where I'm thrifty with funds, but investing in yourself in resources, if you invest in, and I'm hoping I need to turn the corner with this of investing in hiring people, when you do that, if doing it right and they have something worth investing in, then uh you get a lot more back. So that philosophy of you know, it's kind of like buying a house, at least in the US, not everywhere in the world, but you in a sense go into debt to buy a house. Now, in my opinion, you buy a house that you can afford, that's you know, not you you don't do it where you're hand to mouth with everything else, but investing in that can be something that pays off, it gives you joy, things like that. And so I'd say that's one of the bigger things, and really being coached, having someone, whether it's um people that get where I'm going, I can be honest with them, and they give me help give me wisdom or help uncover my wisdom as coaching should, right? You should uncover your own wisdom rather than just be told. And really that I've used the word before accountability, that I was saying, like, I'm going to do this and I'm gonna do it before I see you next. I think those are really important pieces.

Kevin: 29:49

Last segment. This segment's called overrated, underrated. I'm very curious since you've been coaching, you've probably gotten a lot of great advice, probably some bad advice, some solicited advice, some unrated. A lot of unsolicited advice, not gonna lie. In a short phrase, or I guess like what's the most overrated piece of business advice you've gotten and what's the most underrated piece of advice you've gotten thus far?

Marla Moody: 30:12

Okay, so this might sound bad, but I think in some ways the overrated is the ideal client piece. And uh why I say that is uh when I was working towards getting my hours to go from ACC to PCC in coaching, PCC is professional coaching certification, I needed, you know, I calculated how many hours I needed by what time, and I'm like, I need to step up how many hours I'm coaching. And so I took on kind of anybody, and what was great about that is I learned through experience what I like to, you know, like who are the people I want to work with and who are the people that aren't aren't the ones I do. And it still is diverse because I'm I my interest level, but sometimes to go too quickly into the ideal client might keep us from finding like you talked about, like you know, it evolves over time. It might keep us from some people that really we could be investing in that we choose not to. So that would be the underrated or overrated. The underrated would be to say what are things that you do and repeat and repeat that you really can systemize. The nice thing um about now is the digital world's gotten to the point where I mean the tools are so much better than they were. I mean, even you know, using Riverside for a podcast, it does so much of the work for you. Or, you know, some of the, you know, yeah, just some of the systems that make that easier. So utilizing that so that you're freeing up your time to do what's more important.

Kevin: 31:51

How can people find you and connect with you, Coach Marla?

Marla Moody: 31:54

My website, which is still being worked on because we're renovating it, is coachingwithmarla.com. You can find me at marlawithmarla.com. And again, my website or my uh podcast is what works. And if it's not Marla or Coaching with Marla someone there, it might be a different what works. But yeah, I'd love to, you know, whether it's about yeah, regulating and and going to that, you know, you mentioned it sympathetic and parasympathetic. Sympathetic is being hyper, being, you know, the energy and the parasympathetic is getting back down to a calm state. And everything from that to yeah, a a framework so that you are leading from a rested place and your team can thrive. I I those are my my favorite sweet spots right now.

Kevin: 32:42

Yeah, Coach Marlowe, there's just so much I took away from this uh podcast. One, I just want to highlight your courage just to like leave a career of like 36 years. That's just as old as me, actually. I'm just one year older, but that's a long time. And so you choosing to do this work where I personally feel it's not very it's not often talked about. It's getting more attention, sure, about the Vegas nurse and pathetic and learning how to regulate self- but I don't think people I think just chatting to you about it, it it really goes to show that you know there's a lot of symptoms of it. Like we talked about like the reactivity of like le especially in leadership, the super micromanager boss or the one there's a lot of things here, and then even from the holistic side of like okay, overeating and stuff like that. Yeah. And then we see downward like health responses from uh downward stream, downward downstream effects because of that too. And so I think you just barely touched upon it. But then also thank you for just being so vulnerable about what you don't feel strong about, too, like in your business as well, and especially starting out. It's gonna help a lot of coaches think about these things, maybe who were like you maybe just five years ago and thinking about doing a coaching business as well. So I just want to say, Coach Marla, thank you for the work you do. Thank you for just coming on to a podcast and just openly sharing your knowledge. And uh I just want to say I appreciate you. So thank you for coming on.

Davis Nguyen : 34:12

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